The thing is, WT growth is slowing to a trickle and they KNOW that soon the only source of growth will be Dubs reproducing themselves. So why would they counsel against Dubs reproducing themselves? I'm tellin' ya, the handwriting is on the wall and they see it... their ace-in-the-hole could be a staged Armageddon/GT. Oh, and did I forget to mention the selling off of property right and left and the losing or settling out of courts lawsuits likely in the millions of dollars?
Dead Man Joaquin
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Connecting the Dots...
by Dead Man Joaquin inhttp://dumbonyc.com/2008/01/30/85-jay-activity/.
ok, let's take a moment to review recent wt shenanigans:.
1) sunday's wt study re-emphasized yet again the importance of obedience to and trust in good ol' faithy discreety mcslaveypants, mentioning the high likelihood of "detailed instructions" coming soon to a kh near you.. 2) yet more bethel layoffs.. 3) the new kool-aid edition of the wt.
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Connecting the Dots...
by Dead Man Joaquin inhttp://dumbonyc.com/2008/01/30/85-jay-activity/.
ok, let's take a moment to review recent wt shenanigans:.
1) sunday's wt study re-emphasized yet again the importance of obedience to and trust in good ol' faithy discreety mcslaveypants, mentioning the high likelihood of "detailed instructions" coming soon to a kh near you.. 2) yet more bethel layoffs.. 3) the new kool-aid edition of the wt.
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Dead Man Joaquin
http://dumbonyc.com/2008/01/30/85-jay-activity/
OK, let's take a moment to review recent WT shenanigans:
1) Sunday's WT study re-emphasized yet again the importance of obedience to and trust in good ol' Faithy Discreety McSlaveypants, mentioning the high likelihood of "detailed instructions" coming soon to a KH near you.
2) Yet more Bethel layoffs.
3) The new Kool-Aid Edition of the WT. April's issue brings out the worst of the WT in full glory. The higher-education-bashing, the counsel against having kids in this system, etc...
4) The recent refutation by WT spokesman Richard Devine that the 4-towers project (can anybody say COMPOUND?) has been cancelled. (See above link).
5) Continued tightening of the screws on personal freedoms, i.e. detailed instructions in a recent KM regarding meeting procedure, the infamous don't-use-any-study-tools-but-ours KM, the 30-minute talk (so as to reduce "personal interjections" by the speaker and more rigidly conform to the outline).
Am I just paranoid, or is the solution to the above math equation looking more and more like Jonesville or Waco? The WT knows that, with the proliferation of the Internet, they cannot survive another 1975 without major upheaval. So are they going to back up the apparent "buckling down for the GT" by ensuring that it really happens this time... by forcing the hand of Jehovah?
Your thoughts please?
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Atheists should not be considered as citizens, nor patriots.
by digderidoo ingeorge bush seniors response when journalist robert sherman asked whether he recognised the equal citizenship and patriotism of americans who are athiests, responded," no, i don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots.
this is one nation under god.
" (r.dawkins, god delusion p65).
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Dead Man Joaquin
Carl Sagan once asked a friend, "You're so smart... Why do you believe in God?" To which she replied, "You're so smart, why DON'T you believe in God?" I think we see the problem here. "Smart" ain't got nothin' to do with it. For every brilliant unbeliever there's an equally brilliant believer, and vice versa.
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Atheists should not be considered as citizens, nor patriots.
by digderidoo ingeorge bush seniors response when journalist robert sherman asked whether he recognised the equal citizenship and patriotism of americans who are athiests, responded," no, i don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots.
this is one nation under god.
" (r.dawkins, god delusion p65).
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Dead Man Joaquin
"It's natural for people to resent their intellectual superiors." I assume you're just kidding. Belief (or lack thereof) has no correlation with intelligence (or lack thereof). I have no problem with anybody's beliefs (or lack thereof) as long as they're not dogmatic about it. This is why I groan anytime somebody quotes Dawkins. The man is an arrogant bastard, plain and simple. So atheists are the only sensible people around, eh? I guess that makes Einstein, Newton, Pascal, et al frickin' idiots...
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"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character...
by digderidoo in...in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully.
", says richard dawkins in the god delusion p51.
he goes on to say, "those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror".. would you agree?.
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Dead Man Joaquin
I believe that Yah Elohim was the god of the OT and the NT. Hell, even Jesus' real (Hebrew) name was Yahoshua, which means Yah-saved. I also believe that Jesus was who he claimed to be and that the Bible is inspired (if not infallible). But how to reconcile the OT Yah with the NT Yah? A perplexing issue indeed. I posit 2 theories:
1) God indeed "grew", "changed", or "evolved" as humanity's spirituality grew/changed/evolved. He is reflected in the collective consciousness of the time and changes with the time.
2) Some of the OT prophets misrepresented Yah or acted without His approval. This goes back to my belief that the Bible may be inspired but perhaps not infallible.
Just my $0.02
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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Dead Man Joaquin
As long as any "splinter groups" that may form retain the shunning policy, they will be just as worthless. Like I've said before, once Witnesses lose their fear of shunning, it's all over for the WT.
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Theocratic Warfare
by Dead Man Joaquin indoes anybody know if/where this strategy is documented in wt literature?
thanx
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Does anybody know if/where this strategy is documented in WT literature? Thanx
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Watchtower Child Custody Packet
by Dead Man Joaquin inyou know, the one that's only available by an official request to the boe in child custody cases.
anybody have a scan or link?.
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Theocratic Warfare... printed material... anyone?
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Watchtower disinformation starts even before page 1...
by Dead Man Joaquin inthe wt magazine states that it has been "published continuously by jehovah's witnesses since 1879".. .
there were no jehovah's witnesses before 1931. only bible students.. .
you can't even get past the wt's "mission statement" without encountering untruth.. .
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There was a thread not long ago which included scans of the January "Study Edition". Anybody know where it is?
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Watchtower Child Custody Packet
by Dead Man Joaquin inyou know, the one that's only available by an official request to the boe in child custody cases.
anybody have a scan or link?.
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Speaking of "Theocratic Warfare", is there any printed documentation on this procedure?